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(Originally posted on Facebook)

Right, I've thought about it...

I didn't like Margaret Thatcher, at least within the context that I was able to make a judgement on liking or disliking her, and that is to say in terms of her politics and the manner in which she conducted herself as Prime Minister.

That she made history as the first woman to ever hold the post is to be remembered and respected; it's hard to understand how we do not have far more visible and accomplished women in British politics given the massive impact she had upon the zeitgeist while she was running our country.

I make no apology for having enjoyed, immensely, her fall from power - that is a part of "the show that never ends" and even though one might say she took it with good grace, I was cheering along with all the others as she was driven away from Number 10, and it was all the sweeter for the tears that were visibly about to erupt from her eyes.

Am I happy today? No. Today an elderly woman who was unwell passed away, leaving her family to grieve. I cannot begin to imagine how horrid it must be to be her child or grandchild and see otherwise lovely normal people cheering and planning parties to "celebrate" the passing of their Mum or their Granny. If she had truly been a dictator, with no mandate from the electorate, or if she had truly presided over illegal actions, or if indeed the record of history could show that she did anything but that which she believed to be right within the confines of the system she was put in charge of by the people, then that judgement should have come through the courts during or after her time as P.M., not posthumously as portion of the populace dance on her grave. Certainly history will judge her; if you've not run a country I am of the opinion that the day of her death is not the time to criticise - should have got it in while she was still alive, or at least wait a decent interval and stick to the facts.

Above all it's hard not to concede that if passions run this high across the spectrum about someone, then they were not coasting through life or choosing the path of least resistance. For all her faults, as I see them at any rate, you couldn't call her a coward or a milk-sop or frankly anyone's bitch. It's not that hard to respect someone while disliking them and disagreeing with them, when you get right down to it.

So, no party for me, no crowing or jubilation; let's just do our best to remember that when our Mum's die we'd probably rather no one threw a party either.

To be clear, I don't like her now, even now she's dead - just in case any of you were wondering...

Date: 2013-04-08 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-h-r-hughes.livejournal.com
Good post Ollie. no matter what you're feeling about her the fact that at a time when women in public life were virtually nonexistant that she managed to grab the reins of any party let alone such a traditionalist one deserves some credit.

I imagine some of the grave dancing is going to be pretty grim and a lot of it will be thinly veiled mysoginy. I may not have enjoyed her politics but I've never liked the way the so called 'alternative' comedians laid into her with such special relish or the fact that Spitting Image just dressed her in a suit and had her peeing at urinals. I assume they bought into the crap perpetuated often by certain so-called feminists of the more hippy variety that women in power would behave in certain ways different to men, especially if they were 'a mother' (which would some how give them some deep spiritual connection to all the children of the world !). With this in mind somebody who so rudely smashed their expectations must have been very upsetting. Guess what a woman in power is just as capable of (and has as much right) to being a f*cking idiot as a man in the same position - and shouldn't get any more or less of a broadside for doing so, that's equal opportunities.

Date: 2013-04-08 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maleghast.livejournal.com
Thanks mon ami, I am heartened to see that we agree on the subject.

I have to be honest I didn't comment on the outrageous misogyny that I saw in the various criticisms of her whilst in power and since, simply because I didn't want to get into a different set of arguments with a different bunch of people, but for what it's worth I think that you are absolutely right, on all counts.

Date: 2013-04-08 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keith-london.livejournal.com
MT probably was too busy saving the country to "don't like" anyone on such a petty level.

Date: 2013-04-08 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maleghast.livejournal.com
I don't want to get into a war of words here, but my dislike of her politics and thus some of the decisions she took is not petty at all, or is that not what you meant..?

Date: 2013-04-09 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renniek.livejournal.com
Respect yet dislike is my attitude too.

But while I'm not partying (the moment to celebrate was her political demise, not an 87-year-old dying), I can see why people feel the need to criticise her politics. All around us public figures in the UK and internationally are paying her accolades, speaking about her saving the british economy, praising her leadership. I can see why people feel the urge to respond. A lot of British people did well out of Thatcher's government, but a lot did very, very badly.

Date: 2013-05-08 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lefin1.livejournal.com
Happy Birth Week!

Date: 2013-05-10 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lefin1.livejournal.com
Happy Birthday!

Date: 2013-07-03 01:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] matrixmann
Think there have been a lot more people who critisized her political strategy in ealier times.
Only the political zeitgeist who reigned and still reigns managed to keep these voices down by their neoliberal propaganda.
What she decided was good to the ones who truly share the world - nothing more, nothing less.
That's why you couldn't hear them then.

But now is a time where this zeitgeist loses credibility on the street.
Even among some intellectuals.

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